Similar 
                  to the fundamental 
                    ignorance that exists in the roofing trades when dissimilar 
                    metals are mixed, this fact of Cedar eroding Copper has 
                  also been lost not only to the tradesmen, but to the “experts” 
                  to whom the current crop of roofers look for direction.   
  
                “Although the acidity of rain in the eastern 
                  part of the United States is high (low pH), rain by itself 
                  isn't acidic enough to harm Copper.” 
                
                  
                It 
                  is mentioned on the "www.cedarburaeu.org" website 
                  that “Copper can be used as a flashing in areas that 
                  are not accustomed to acid rain.” It is also described 
                  in several other writings found on the web that sulfur dioxide, the primary component 
                  of "acid rain," deteriorates buildings and especially 
                  Copper.  
                Certainly the folks over at the Cedar Bureau do recognize the problem of Copper degradation under a Cedar wash. On their question and answers section, an inquisitive visitor asked: 
                Can I use fire retardant treated cedar shakes or shingles as siding above a copper roof? Answer: 
                  Certi-Guard® products will not affect the copper; the treatment seals any tannic acid into the shakes or shingles.  
                The old-time craftsmen knew from experience that the 
                  sulfur dioxide from chimneys on coal burners within homes 
                  emitted caustic exhaust that tended to corrode Copper flashings. 
                  This fact contributed more to the use of Terne Coated Steel 
                  flashings on old Slate roofs than the added expense of the 
                  Copper metal, but the expense of the Copper is often given 
                  for the reason of the steel flashings’ use. A careful 
                  search for information regarding these facts will often yield 
                  only a modernist viewpoint that the cost was the primary factor 
                  in the use of Terne Flashings over Copper in these old roofing 
                  applications.  
                   
                  Similarly, one can also find information regarding Copper 
                  degradation from "acid rain," but for deterioration 
                  from the surrounding materials on a given project, rarely 
                  can one glean anything from contemporary articles on the subject 
                  of architectural Copper degradation.  
                
                  
                  
                    
                "...this writing is to inform the many 
                  ill-informed in this industry that the run-off from Cedar 
                  will degrade Copper flashings." 
                Long 
                  before anyone heard the term "acid rain," it was 
                  well known that the naturally occurring acids from Cedar would 
                  degrade Copper flashings. It was also known that the soot 
                  generated from a coal-fired furnace would eat away at Copper 
                  flashings. A true student of old-time craftsmen and their 
                  methods can only be in awe of the respect they had for the 
                  realities that the "so-called" experts of today 
                  can only derive from the scientific community and long-distance 
                  theory. The science of yesterday's craftsmen consisted of 
                  a pragmatic view and from lasting statements in their predecessor’s 
                  workmanship. They knew how different materials functioned 
                  and a certain harmony for relationships between given materials 
                  was respected in the field. In today's market, however, tradesmen 
                  are hard to find and the workers that do visit the trades 
                  are often transients and most look to the "experts" 
                  for advice and true experts are few and far between.  
                For 
                  all intents and purposes, this writing is to inform the many 
                  ill-informed in this industry that the run-off from Cedar 
                  will degrade Copper flashings. Acid rain, or not, the acid 
                  contained within the Cedar Shingles rots Copper! It has been 
                  known for ages that Copper should not be used on Cedar Roofs! 
                  Having experience in the field of roofing, our craftsmen have 
                  learned from the tradesmen of yesterday. The roofers of yesteryear 
                  did not use Copper on Cedar Roofs!  
                There 
                  seems to be an argument from some within the industry regarding 
                  the use of Copper on Cedar Roofs. It is apparent from the 
                  modern applications where Copper is improperly used as a flashing 
                  on Cedar Roofing that a certain type of erosion occurs that 
                  is unique to the metal on Cedar Roofs flashed with Copper. 
                  Acid rain plays no role in the increased degradation of Copper 
                  flashing on Cedar roofs as compared to slate roofs. Cedar 
                  Roofing degrades Copper. The blue-green protective patina 
                  developed on the surface of Copper flashings balances and 
                  protects the metal from sulfur dioxide degradation. This patina forms 
                  on Copper installed onto Cedar Roofs, but the metal is quickly 
                  robbed of its protective patina where the Cedar bleeds acid 
                  onto the metal. Witnessing this, it is apparent that the amount 
                  of run-off and not just the contact with, or "trapping" 
                  of water between the materials, is the leading contributing 
                  factor.   
                “Copper 
                  located below Cedar Shingles especially is vulnerable, probably 
                  because of acid extractives in the wood.” 
                 
                  The "Copper.org" website answers the question as 
                  to the compatibility of Cedar Roofing and Copper. The suggestion 
                  that the Copper and the "leading edge" of the Cedar 
                  should be isolated tells of the reaction between the two materials. 
                  Copper and Cedar should not be mixed so that the Copper accepts 
                  run-off from the Cedar. This is the fundamental truth that 
                  has been known for centuries. It has only been of late, in 
                  this past half century, where we have lost the career tradesmen 
                  that used to pass down the knowledge of their predecessors, 
                  where we rely more upon opinions based upon theory than from 
                  solid experience.  
                As 
                  stated by Donald Baerman, an expert in this field and one 
                  who has gone to great lengths to find the truth, “Copper 
                  located below Cedar Shingles especially is vulnerable, probably 
                  because of acid extractives in the wood.” Mr. Baerman 
                  also states, “Although the acidity of rain in the eastern 
                  part of the United States is high (low pH), rain by itself 
                  isn't acidic enough to harm Copper.” We say thank you 
                  to Donald Baerman, who has taken the time to investigate the 
                  subject in great detail. 
                Just 
                  do not mix Copper and Cedar and you will not have to worry 
                  about any problems down the road. 
                As 
                  for Cedar Sidings and Roofing, we will be writing about the 
                  New Growth Wood issues and the truth about Cedar and life 
                  cycles of exterior wood claddings. 
                 
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