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"We have received calls from architects and engineers that differ with us on key points listed on this website. This page should serve for increased discussion on the topic of vapor barriers or retarders and their proper placement within the building envelope."
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Contrary to many beliefs: Most instances of mold have little or nothing to do with cleanliness. It usually is related to moisture and condensation, plumbing and roof leaks, or high water tables, etc.  
   

Mold Testing by professionalsFor years we have sounded the alarms regarding construction practices that cause major problems that can prove to be unhealthy to homeowners and their families. Any contributing factor that would encourage the growth of black mold within the walls of a home should be investigated. Black mold is dangerous and the health affects are just now being discovered.

"When called on a siding estimate, suggesting to a potential client that moisture vapor is traveling through their walls and then condensing on the outside, under the paint seems like the most ridiculous thing they have ever heard."

 
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Heavy Moisture Vapor in This Area

Since building codes, self-serving manufacturer recommendations and "expert" opinions seem to lead to many problems as evidenced in the field, we are pragmatic in our approach to solving these issues that present themselves as we perform our services. We have learned from real world experiences.

LOOK AT WHAT DOING THE JOB WITH DISREGARD TO PROVEN METHODS CAN CAUSE: MOLD IN THE WALLS, FLOORS AND ROT AND MAJOR DAMAGE FROM ROOF AND SIDING LEAKS!


The common thinking among the industry "experts" is to leave the vapor barrier (now referred to as a vapor retarder) out of the equation of the building envelope to enable drying from both sides (or either side) of the wall. This approach being applied, while installing a "weather barrier" under the siding on the exterior of the building that is considered "permeable" can be a fatal flaw. For decades we have advocated caution regarding the ideas of industry "experts" regarding emphasis on underlayments. On record, this website has since 2004 stated that the "Housewrap Mentality" is problematic and that an external "weather barrier" becomes a vapor barrier or retarder in the winter months in the Philadelphia area.

We have received calls from architects and engineers that differ with us on key points listed on this website. This page should serve for increased discussion on the topic of vapor barriers or retarders and their proper placement within the building envelope.

The highlighted job on this page originally resulted from a call about chipping paint on the outside of a wood sided home. The cost of repainting and the failures of prior painting efforts caused for the consideration of the replacement of the wood siding with Fiber Cement siding.

This type of problem is common and often seen as merely a paint issue. Expert painters gave their opinions on this situation. The consensus from the painters was that the original wood was not primed on the backside. This is a reason often given by paint experts regarding chipping paint. Our estimator knew better. Just a quick look in the back yard told him that the house was built on a high water table. There stood a raised "sand mound" or "Wisconsin mound" for the septic system. He knew that when a building site fails a PERC test, it is indicative of a high water table and the raised mound is then required. The high water table is indicative of several potential problems with a home built in such an area.

The water bags on the outside of the home were not even realized by the homeowners. They only knew the paint was peeling, after the water bags in the paint broke. Many homes in the area have similar problems with paint peeling. The homes in the area that used a semi-transparent stain did not have the water bags and peeling issues. Clearly moisture was coming from within the wall and being trapped by the new-age paint that formed a latex envelope over the walls. Moisture vapor was pushed through the walls in the winter and condensing on the cold external wrapping of latex paint, forming water bags that stretch the paint at the bevel laps, undoing its adhesion from the substrate. The "paint blisters" or "water bags" that form then break away from the weight of the water, usually freezing on the wall. The missing paint is what is left.


When called on a siding estimate, suggesting to a potential client that moisture vapor is traveling through their walls and then condensing on the outside, under the paint seems like the most ridiculous thing they have ever heard. It does sound crazy when multiple painters have claimed that a primer issue was at fault.

As shown in the interactive image, serious mold and rot usually accompany the moisture issues. Hidden inside the walls of the subject home were entire colonies of different fungi that were threatening not only the structure of the home but the health of the occupants. As shown, in areas of direct leakage was a semi-aggressive white rot that had established itself in the several strongholds located in direct proximity to and under actual external water leaking areas. The mold however, had proliferated because of high interior relative humidity and this combined with the sporadically concentrated humid areas like that of bathrooms, etc., created the perfect storm behind the walls. The lack of exhaust fans in the bathrooms also contributed to these issues.

No leaks were found from the shower area behind the wall. The moisture vapor from the interior of the home caused the problem. Even though higher concentrations of water vapor were emitted from the shower area, nothing rivals the obvious exiting pressures of winter-time moisture vapors that clearly were emanating from the high water table construction. Air Sealing and Insulation work with Polyurethane Foam Insulation was done in the area behind the shower to remedy the high concentrations of water vapor emission into the wall in that area.

Deteriorated sheathing and framing was replaced. Mold was treated topically with our proprietary mold killing solution & preventative and rotting areas were treated with Boric Solution to prevent future rot and fungal growth and insect proliferation.

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Since this home was built in 1986, it falls on the "cusp" of the onset of the new growth era in the building marketplace. Aspenite on the walls was very vulnerable to mold proliferation. The framing seemed semi-resilient to the white rot and appeared to be old growth wood.

Customer was advised as to moisture problems and to use an indoor hygrometer and dehumidifier and to check on the basement floor and walls. The high water table is the most probable source of the obvious winter-time high indoor relative humidity. A "doormat" test for the presence of a vapor barrier under the basement slab (not to be confused with, the often problematic, vertical vapor barriers installed on basement walls) is always a good place to start.

 
 

 

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